Comments on: What DOPA means for kids http://www.veronicabelmont.com/2006/07/what-dopa-means-for-kids/ tech.gadgets.video.geekculture.gaming.kittens. Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:55:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7-beta3 hourly 1 By: Joshua http://www.veronicabelmont.com/2006/07/what-dopa-means-for-kids/comment-page-1/#comment-3478 Joshua Sat, 21 Oct 2006 16:08:26 +0000 http://www.veronicabelmont.com/2006/07/what-dopa-means-for-kids/#comment-3478 Late twenties Joshua is very disappointed in mid-twenties Veronica. It is never a good idea to allow government to regulate what a private individual does. I am not an online predator, I don't think I know any, and I too am against online predators. But they cannot be effectively fought using yesterdays tactics like passing laws. Like Tom M.'s feelings on downloadable movies and how companies should embrace the new medium and flow with it instead of against it. A new approach must be taken to address this variant of something we've always had. A stalker. Late twenties Joshua is very disappointed in mid-twenties Veronica. It is never a good idea to allow government to regulate what a private individual does. I am not an online predator, I don’t think I know any, and I too am against online predators. But they cannot be effectively fought using yesterdays tactics like passing laws. Like Tom M.’s feelings on downloadable movies and how companies should embrace the new medium and flow with it instead of against it. A new approach must be taken to address this variant of something we’ve always had. A stalker.

]]> By: Kato http://www.veronicabelmont.com/2006/07/what-dopa-means-for-kids/comment-page-1/#comment-1274 Kato Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:01:22 +0000 http://www.veronicabelmont.com/2006/07/what-dopa-means-for-kids/#comment-1274 You know, I've been thinking about this bill a little more and I'm somewhat surprised it passed. I assume the whole reason Rupert Murdoch bought MySpace was to use it to advertise to the "youth market". A lot of television shows and movies have MySpace profiles now in order to drum up interest. So, I guess I am surprised that News Corp or whomever didn't lobby to have this bill struck down. I mean, companies aren't usually too keen on losing advertising venues, and I would think that this bill, by restricting the times/places "kids" can get on MySpace, would come as a threat to News Corps. plans. But maybe they don't care that much, or don't think it's that big of a deal (or didn't notice). You know, I’ve been thinking about this bill a little more and I’m somewhat surprised it passed. I assume the whole reason Rupert Murdoch bought MySpace was to use it to advertise to the “youth market”. A lot of television shows and movies have MySpace profiles now in order to drum up interest. So, I guess I am surprised that News Corp or whomever didn’t lobby to have this bill struck down. I mean, companies aren’t usually too keen on losing advertising venues, and I would think that this bill, by restricting the times/places “kids” can get on MySpace, would come as a threat to News Corps. plans.

But maybe they don’t care that much, or don’t think it’s that big of a deal (or didn’t notice).

]]> By: Jyh http://www.veronicabelmont.com/2006/07/what-dopa-means-for-kids/comment-page-1/#comment-1257 Jyh Sun, 30 Jul 2006 02:43:29 +0000 http://www.veronicabelmont.com/2006/07/what-dopa-means-for-kids/#comment-1257 Wile the bill may be vague in its wording and that may leave many sites vulnerable, it actually can be guaranteed that the government will not intrude on the online realm with such fervor that Veronica may be suggesting. CNet, slashdot, blogs, Youtube will just have to change the way they allow profiles and personal information listings for participants. The current system and parental ignorance has endangered our youth; the ability to restrict visits by libraries and schools (where there is little to no supervision) will only go further in protecting children from themselves. True, this will not solve the problem. However, it will be one more barrier for the kiddies and their pursuers to overcome. I'm staring down at my thinkpad and thinking that perhaps everyone should submit biometric identification in order to access sites... Wile the bill may be vague in its wording and that may leave many sites vulnerable, it actually can be guaranteed that the government will not intrude on the online realm with such fervor that Veronica may be suggesting. CNet, slashdot, blogs, Youtube will just have to change the way they allow profiles and personal information listings for participants. The current system and parental ignorance has endangered our youth; the ability to restrict visits by libraries and schools (where there is little to no supervision) will only go further in protecting children from themselves. True, this will not solve the problem. However, it will be one more barrier for the kiddies and their pursuers to overcome.

I’m staring down at my thinkpad and thinking that perhaps everyone should submit biometric identification in order to access sites…

]]> By: Jyh http://www.veronicabelmont.com/2006/07/what-dopa-means-for-kids/comment-page-1/#comment-1256 Jyh Sat, 29 Jul 2006 23:37:26 +0000 http://www.veronicabelmont.com/2006/07/what-dopa-means-for-kids/#comment-1256 Biochem comes back to me... dihydroxyphenylalanine = DOPA. Love the blog, love the cnet vids. Biochem comes back to me… dihydroxyphenylalanine = DOPA.

Love the blog, love the cnet vids.

]]> By: CoolB http://www.veronicabelmont.com/2006/07/what-dopa-means-for-kids/comment-page-1/#comment-1254 CoolB Fri, 28 Jul 2006 23:10:32 +0000 http://www.veronicabelmont.com/2006/07/what-dopa-means-for-kids/#comment-1254 Well, in theory it sounds like a good idea, but in practice? Eh, not so much, not only do you have the whole wording issue, but then if it was a law, all the tech people would have to find a way to implement it and keep up on any new sites. And let's not forget kids aren't stupid, if they really wanted to find a way they probably could get around a lot of the blocks. Pretty much I think parents should be more responsible for their children instead of letting other groups (Government, school sports, after school activities, etc) be "babysitters". Well, in theory it sounds like a good idea, but in practice? Eh, not so much, not only do you have the whole wording issue, but then if it was a law, all the tech people would have to find a way to implement it and keep up on any new sites. And let’s not forget kids aren’t stupid, if they really wanted to find a way they probably could get around a lot of the blocks.

Pretty much I think parents should be more responsible for their children instead of letting other groups (Government, school sports, after school activities, etc) be “babysitters”.

]]> By: Veronica http://www.veronicabelmont.com/2006/07/what-dopa-means-for-kids/comment-page-1/#comment-1253 Veronica Fri, 28 Jul 2006 22:01:50 +0000 http://www.veronicabelmont.com/2006/07/what-dopa-means-for-kids/#comment-1253 There are never enough tubes jokes, Brian. Never. There are never enough tubes jokes, Brian. Never.

]]> By: Brian Franklin http://www.veronicabelmont.com/2006/07/what-dopa-means-for-kids/comment-page-1/#comment-1252 Brian Franklin Fri, 28 Jul 2006 21:59:24 +0000 http://www.veronicabelmont.com/2006/07/what-dopa-means-for-kids/#comment-1252 Congress today passed the Stop Online Access Program, or SOAP Act due to rising concerns over internet predation. The bill, introduced by Sen. Ted Stevens (R-AK), outlaws all forms of internet. An internet is defined by the following terms: (i) not a big truck, (ii) a series of tubes. Despite criticism that the overly broad terms will now make it a felony to provide or use utilities such as water and sewage service, Sen. Bill Frist (R-TN) maintains that "SOAP will finally let us clean up all the online filth." (sorry for another tubes joke) Congress today passed the Stop Online Access Program, or SOAP Act due to rising concerns over internet predation. The bill, introduced by Sen. Ted Stevens (R-AK), outlaws all forms of internet. An internet is defined by the following terms: (i) not a big truck, (ii) a series of tubes. Despite criticism that the overly broad terms will now make it a felony to provide or use utilities such as water and sewage service, Sen. Bill Frist (R-TN) maintains that “SOAP will finally let us clean up all the online filth.”

(sorry for another tubes joke)

]]> By: Vitaliy http://www.veronicabelmont.com/2006/07/what-dopa-means-for-kids/comment-page-1/#comment-1251 Vitaliy Fri, 28 Jul 2006 21:13:44 +0000 http://www.veronicabelmont.com/2006/07/what-dopa-means-for-kids/#comment-1251 So many kids are using laptops in schools and they had to introduce a law to prevent it? Maybe it’s just New York City but there is not one kid in any of the local high schools walking around with a laptop. In my university all freshmen get a laptop as they joint, which results in these little imbeciles spending their time on IM, playing poker, and MySpace while they are in class. The professor should not care, nor should the government, when a person is in college they should be responsible enough to get their attention away from MySpace for a couple of hours in class. When the horrible grades come in, they deserve it... do you really want people with 30 second attention span graduating and be responsible for real life tasks all of us depend on? So many kids are using laptops in schools and they had to introduce a law to prevent it? Maybe it’s just New York City but there is not one kid in any of the local high schools walking around with a laptop.

In my university all freshmen get a laptop as they joint, which results in these little imbeciles spending their time on IM, playing poker, and MySpace while they are in class. The professor should not care, nor should the government, when a person is in college they should be responsible enough to get their attention away from MySpace for a couple of hours in class. When the horrible grades come in, they deserve it… do you really want people with 30 second attention span graduating and be responsible for real life tasks all of us depend on?

]]> By: Tom http://www.veronicabelmont.com/2006/07/what-dopa-means-for-kids/comment-page-1/#comment-1250 Tom Fri, 28 Jul 2006 20:48:23 +0000 http://www.veronicabelmont.com/2006/07/what-dopa-means-for-kids/#comment-1250 Dead on V. It's not just about wheter it should be a law but how they wrote it. Dead on V. It’s not just about wheter it should be a law but how they wrote it.

]]> By: davidatkins http://www.veronicabelmont.com/2006/07/what-dopa-means-for-kids/comment-page-1/#comment-1249 davidatkins Fri, 28 Jul 2006 20:41:49 +0000 http://www.veronicabelmont.com/2006/07/what-dopa-means-for-kids/#comment-1249 The more advanced a society is, the less laws it needs. I'll start from that premise. I thought conservatives wanted less government on our backs.. we live in weird times. The solution here will be found in a more micro way.. i.e., filtering systems on site. The more advanced a society is, the less laws it needs. I’ll start from that premise. I thought conservatives wanted less government on our backs.. we live in weird times. The solution here will be found in a more micro way.. i.e., filtering systems on site.

]]> By: radiationman http://www.veronicabelmont.com/2006/07/what-dopa-means-for-kids/comment-page-1/#comment-1248 radiationman Fri, 28 Jul 2006 19:27:36 +0000 http://www.veronicabelmont.com/2006/07/what-dopa-means-for-kids/#comment-1248 First, I agree much like many of the laws Congress pushes (DMCA?) DOPA is worded way to vaguely and as a result is significantly more encompassing than it should be. The trouble is how do you deal with this... Without a doubt something needs to be done. Yes parents have to get involved, but part of growing up is also giving your kids responsibilty, that includes being able as they get older to go to the library by themselves... First, I agree much like many of the laws Congress pushes (DMCA?) DOPA is worded way to vaguely and as a result is significantly more encompassing than it should be.

The trouble is how do you deal with this… Without a doubt something needs to be done.

Yes parents have to get involved, but part of growing up is also giving your kids responsibilty, that includes being able as they get older to go to the library by themselves…

]]> By: Veronica http://www.veronicabelmont.com/2006/07/what-dopa-means-for-kids/comment-page-1/#comment-1247 Veronica Fri, 28 Jul 2006 18:42:54 +0000 http://www.veronicabelmont.com/2006/07/what-dopa-means-for-kids/#comment-1247 I agree. I think it should be the responsibility of the parents (at home) and the teachers (at school) to keep kids safe. They can pick which sites they want to have blocked. I agree. I think it should be the responsibility of the parents (at home) and the teachers (at school) to keep kids safe. They can pick which sites they want to have blocked.

]]> By: Kato http://www.veronicabelmont.com/2006/07/what-dopa-means-for-kids/comment-page-1/#comment-1246 Kato Fri, 28 Jul 2006 18:11:31 +0000 http://www.veronicabelmont.com/2006/07/what-dopa-means-for-kids/#comment-1246 Why does a bill have to be passed for a school to limit these kind of sites? My workplace just uses one of those filtering programs and the proxy prevents people from visiting non-work related sites (such as MySpace because it is categorized as "dating"). Isn't this just yet another issue that could be solved by parents getting more involved in their childrens activities, instead of Congress trying to legislate it? Why does a bill have to be passed for a school to limit these kind of sites? My workplace just uses one of those filtering programs and the proxy prevents people from visiting non-work related sites (such as MySpace because it is categorized as “dating”).

Isn’t this just yet another issue that could be solved by parents getting more involved in their childrens activities, instead of Congress trying to legislate it?

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